Zingerman’s Alumni: Sharing Passion and Great Service
by Dory Fox, University of Michigan PhD Candidate, 2017

One weekend a few years ago in Brookline, Mass., the farmer, filmmaker, and food-trucker, Talia Glass and her husband were getting ready to go for a hike and wanted to buy foods for a picnic lunch. They were thinking of stopping someplace where they could buy cut-to-order cheeses, salads, meats, and bread. Because they are both from Southeast Michigan, âwe were both kind of envisioning, that weâd go to Zingermanâs,â the Ann Arbor native said. They realized, though, that there was nowhere nearby that fit the bill.
âI guess youâre gonna have to start the Zingermanâs of Brookline,â Glassâs husband joked.
But this idea stuck with her. She grew up eating at the Zingermanâs deli and later worked at the Deli and at Cornman Farms. After several years in the Boston area, the idea for Allium Market and CafĂ© crystalized. Of course, for Glass, like for other Zingermanâs alumni who have started their own businesses, the goal has not been to start a carbon copy of Zingermanâs. Instead, Glass emulates the ethos of passion for food, commitment to employees, and creating community through education, eating, and drinking.
When Allium opens in the fall, Glass will join a network of people who once worked at Zingermanâsâin roles from sandwich runners to farmers to cheesemongers to buyersâand now have carved out a place for themselves in the food industry. Some of these Zingermanâs alumni, like Glass, have done so all around the country. As near as Detroit, you can find the fingerprints of Lucy Carnaghi, who co-founded the beloved diner Roseâs Fine Foods and will be opening a new restaurant, Wilda later this summer; and as far as the west coast, the California Artisan Cheese Guild has named Zingermanâs alum and cheesemonger Anthea Stolz its first-ever executive director.
Yet an even more visible and remarkable phenomenon of Zingermanâs alumni exists locally within the town of Ann Arbor, where many Zingermanâs alumni have started businesses and have enriched the local food scene immensely.
Thad Gillies, the co-owner and chef at Logan, worked at Zingermanâs for a total of ten years, eventually as the deli chef, before opening the white-tablecloth restaurant, which he co-owns. In the middle of his tenure at Zingermanâs, he spent a two-year stint in New York restaurants while his wife was in graduate school there. But as a true Midwesterner, he always knew that heâd want to come back to Michigan. Having a small restaurant in a place like Ann Arbor has also shaped how he runs his business. For returning customers, Logan keeps an extensive database of what foods and wines patrons have tried, what they like and donât like.
âWe go with that,â Gillies said. âAnd then we push them. Say, âwe know you like this, you should try this now. Just try it.ââ
The unique character of Ann Arbor also shaped how Eric Farrell imagined his business, The Bar at 327 Braun Court. He co-founded The Bar in 2011 after about a decade of dreaming up a bar that would bring the cocktail movement to Ann Arbor. In that time, he was working as a buyer at Zingermanâs. In his vision for what became The Bar, Farrell hoped for an eclectic clientele.
âI said, I want a 23-year old kid with a Mohawk sitting next to two guys in their late fifties in business suits.â
Visiting businesses like The Bar makes it apparent that Zingermanâs alumni working in and around Ann Arbor constitute a network of friends and collaborators. Farrell said was first introduced to craft cocktails and the cocktail movement around the year 2000, on visits to New York City with close friend and Zingermanâs Mail Order Managing Partner Mo Frechette. Now Farrellâs staff includes other Zingermanâs alumni.
The same is true at Spencer, Steve Hall and Abby Orlitzkyâs restaurant thatâs been serving Ann Arborites cheeses, wines, and locally sourced food since 2015. Hall worked for many years at Zingermanâs. Yet even after he left Ann Arbor for San Francisco, Zingermanâs played an instrumental role in his personal and professional life: according to Hall, a loaf of Zingermanâs rye bread was key in winning over Orlitsky, who coincidentally had learned about Zingermanâs food and business philosophy as a chef in fine restaurants in San Francisco.
The pair knew that they wanted to start a restaurant together, and decided to move back to Hallâs native Michigan. Theyâd initially imagined opening a place in Detroit, but like Gillies, believed that founding their restaurant in Ann Arbor created the opportunity to build a community with consistent customers who could return, try new things, and learn. The areaâs agricultural bounty has turned out to make a great difference for Spencer. The restaurantâs rotating menu and the small size of operation also means flexibility in this regard. It means that they can accommodate new or unexpected produce at the drop of a text message from a farmer.
âThere are such good farms hereâsmall farms, big farms, organic farms, orchards,â Hall said. âWe love it because there are so many farmers who will just say, âwhat do you want us to grow you?â So that is another really huge resource for us.â
Hallâlike many of these business ownersâemphasized the importance of passion in his line of work. This was something that he observed as an employee at Zingermanâs and carries on to this day.
âItâs that sharing of passion, that sharing of knowledge that is the big difference, it makes food taste better, it makes the experience better, and it makes people happier at their jobs,â he said.
Glass also noted how much it mattered to be the kind of manager that âwould go the extra mile for employeesâ in addition to caring for customers. This was something she both practiced and experienced working at Zingermanâs. She recalled football Saturdays early on in her time at the deli when founding partner Ari Weinzweig would be working right alongside her, helping to run sandwiches.
This sentiment was echoed by Gabrielle Hamilton, the award-winning chef of Prune in Manhattanâs East Village, and bestselling author of Blood, Bones & Butter. In the 90s Hamilton cooked family dinner at the Zingermanâs Bakehouse, while pursuing a graduate degree in fiction writing at the University of Michigan. When she was there she observed and admired the management style of Frank Carollo, co-managing partner at the Bakehouse.
âI thought he was the model of an employer, I would definitely clock his work style,â Hamilton said. âAlways finding the positive and correcting the mistake but in the most positive way, not a berater but an uplifter. And that I found that rare, wherever you go.â
Farrell described the culture at Zingermanâs simply as, âThereâs something awesome about a place that believes in what itâs doing.â
âWhen I was there, I always felt like I was a part of something special,â he said, âwhich is not something I think a lot of people can say.â
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